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berockly (TTG) 4/24/2023 11:52 PM
Not mant "fronting" barriers over here
11:52 PM
Instead of a wall its just a hill of effort
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it brought thoughts of death and afterlife
11:53 PM
typical of a old person
11:53 PM
makes sense?
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you may have some emotional things to face first. Tulpamancy often brings up stuff you didnt even realize you were burying
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fear is one
11:54 PM
im not sure what else
11:56 PM
i dont understand why she cried, im not sure why but i think i know
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berockly (TTG)
Tips?
How often do you just talk back and forth with each other?
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Yuka
How often do you just talk back and forth with each other?
berockly (TTG) 4/25/2023 12:00 AM
Atleast once every few hours (usually)
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Like for how long?
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berockly (TTG) 4/25/2023 12:01 AM
Not long But we have longer sessions (they are less frequent(
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I kinda noticed you guys don't seem to have a lot of separation
12:02 AM
which is up to you of course, but sometimes you seem like you want more, is that right?
12:02 AM
It would help with switching
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how often do you talk back and forth with your tulpas yuka?
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Yuka
I kinda noticed you guys don't seem to have a lot of separation
berockly (TTG) 4/25/2023 12:05 AM
That seems to be the case
12:06 AM
We feel as though having a more vivid imagination would help with separation, because it gives me more to "base 'them'" on
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i can suggest a technique if you would like
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berockly (TTG) 4/25/2023 12:07 AM
Sure
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it's something i noticed about myself
12:08 AM
when i switch i notice muscle changes, posture, but also in throat. for example my voice is higher pitch and my throat automatically changes the position to how it would speak in higher pitch, it is subtle
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so i wonder if you could use that basically like pavlov's dog
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whenever lycelin is switched in, she could change the throat position a bit
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as if she's speaking with higher pitch, even if she's not speaking
12:09 AM
there is more going on, my eyes muscles are different, neck, back
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Leiko
how often do you talk back and forth with your tulpas yuka?
Sometimes we just talk a little, if the fronter is busy or can't focus, other times we chat for a few hours, or somewhere in the middle of that. But if we only chatted a few min a day as the norm we wouldn't have gotten anywhere in the first place. We want to spend more time together than we do but
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berockly (TTG) 4/25/2023 12:09 AM
Well
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i think people can be getting differences like that with time but i wonder if you could force it a bit
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berockly (TTG) 4/25/2023 12:09 AM
There is sometimes a different feel, or a slightly different state
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Sometimes when cassidy fronts as an example, our mind calms and we become more focused
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it's not something i ever spoke to anyone, but i do think that the difference of feel of different headmate being switched in is the muscles
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and if that's true, you might be able to use that for your advantage
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Sometimes we just talk a little, if the fronter is busy or can't focus, other times we chat for a few hours, or somewhere in the middle of that. But if we only chatted a few min a day as the norm we wouldn't have gotten anywhere in the first place. We want to spend more time together than we do but
@Yuka - jump wow! a few hours?
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berockly (TTG) 4/25/2023 12:11 AM
On one hand, the fronting breaks down easily because atm its purely based on a headmates active intention to do stuff
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you really are using tulpamancy properly!
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i think a lot of people might struggle with talking for a few hours if they are not good in talking to people, i wonder how trainable that is
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Skyler 🐉 BOT 4/25/2023 12:12 AM
I haven’t been able to talk practically at all.
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berockly (TTG) 4/25/2023 12:12 AM
I never have a few straight hours to give to the girls
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That would be horrible, as much as i love talking to them
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Sometimes Aya's really good at talking with us while they're working, and we can do stuff in wonderland a little
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berockly (TTG) 4/25/2023 12:13 AM
I would quite literally have to force myself because id be constantly fighting my attention span length
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Skyler 🐉 BOT 4/25/2023 12:13 AM
I think I’ve forgotten how to talk with headmates.
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Rin 🌹Rose Group🌹 3(🏝)0 BOT 4/25/2023 12:14 AM
We pretty much do nothing but talk, it’s not like we have a lot else to do lol
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I like chatting with mallory, its just that sometimes is a bit hard as responses being clear is kinda random as of now.
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berockly (TTG)
That seems to be the case
I'd suggest a couple things Set aside some time and think about one tup, remember everything about them. Then chat with them, and try to keep things clear about who is talking. You can use conversation prompts if you don't know what to talk about. Try and distinguish their mindvoice, unique feel and such The other is let them front and do some things. More than just taking ownership of a movement for a brief moment, try and make a clear boundary that they are in control and you aren't and reinforce it if it slips. Let spend more time doing something fun or just exploring their own thoughts on stuff
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berockly (TTG) 4/25/2023 12:21 AM
we do all these things
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berockly (TTG) 4/25/2023 12:31 AM
Except the "remember everything about them" part
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We think thats, well, excessive And not well defined
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I cant even remembee everithivg abt myself
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I just mean think about their traits, appearance, mental presence, important moments
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is kelly trying to communicate anything with the possession i mentioned? (edited)
12:59 AM
i feel i cant talk/ask her
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There's no way other people can answer that for you. You have to talk to her. If you don't want to talk to her, why do tulpamancy at all?
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i want and dont want to
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Atlas ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 4/25/2023 1:26 AM
If you're that mixed about tulpamancy, I would have never started to begin with.
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I don't understand, how can you want to but not want to at the same time?
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i wouldn't have been able to get into this if it wasnt for the guide i had that helped me realize it (edited)
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What made you want to start in the first place?
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Atlas ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 4/25/2023 1:29 AM
Yeah, but what does that have to do with any of this?
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(you don't have to say it if you don't want to)
1:30 AM
But try to think, what is different now? Why has that reason changed?
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Yuka
I just mean think about their traits, appearance, mental presence, important moments
berockly (TTG) 4/25/2023 1:31 AM
Yeah
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the reason i have her it went from chores to please parents to genuine interest in taking care of her (edited)
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And if you have genuine interest in taking care of her, why aren't you trying to talk to her?
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im trying, i cant get to talk to her when i need to
1:33 AM
its very random apparently (edited)
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Ah, I'm sorry, I'm still a newbie so I cant help you more than giving my theories and such.
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its fine
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Atlas ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 4/25/2023 1:35 AM
You'll have to be consistent with it.
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Why not respond when you hear her talking to you?
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but i barely hear her talking
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Atlas ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 4/25/2023 1:37 AM
Well, you'll just need to keep at it. Whenever she speaks, try and start up a conversation with her, talk about anything. She needs to be spoken to to actually strengthen her voice and presence in your mind.
1:38 AM
i often feel i dont have something to talk about casually (edited)
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I struggle a bit with casual conversation too
1:40 AM
Even though me and Mallory are like super close
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Disadvantage of being socially awkward bahaha
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Atlas ˗ˏˋM&M´ˎ˗ BOT 4/25/2023 1:42 AM
Hm, it can really be about anything, so how about talking about whatever you're doing when she talks to you?
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It's more like, I talk to her about random things I'm doing, it isn't very often I hear her without directing my thoughts to her
1:43 AM
Although it's happening a bit more often, it's when something is related to or reminds me of her
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That I think "oh hey this reminds me of Mallory!" And we do some small talk
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~Moonlight~
It's more like, I talk to her about random things I'm doing, it isn't very often I hear her without directing my thoughts to her
berockly (TTG) 4/25/2023 1:46 AM
Same for us, 1 and a half years in
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Thats part of the issue
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Hm 9 days in for me
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berockly (TTG) 4/25/2023 1:46 AM
They never wake them selves up
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If it's possible, someone should make a guide on how to help them!
1:47 AM
(help them start walking themselves up)
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berockly (TTG) 4/25/2023 1:51 AM
I wonder what other peoples opinions on this is
1:53 AM
i wonder too
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i'd like to have something worth waking up to or attractive for her (edited)
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berockly (TTG) 4/25/2023 1:56 AM
Like hobbiess?
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My girls need hobbies too
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@Juesto what do you like doing?
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We like the same things... So when I ask her what she wants to do it's always either my first second or third pick haha
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